MYR 50 credit card fee - Solve debt with more debt !?

Seeing that credit card debt has reached a serious and dangerous level, Malaysia government will start imposing MYR 50 fee on each credit card hoping people will reduce the use of credit cards and therefore reduce debt.

Although it may sound rational to some people, but its actually somehow a bit funny ...

For those who keep credit cards in closet, they actually use the cards as emergency loan facility. Admitting to hospital will go through smoother with a gold card etc. These people did not owe any credit card debt, they were NOT part of the problems to start with. But now they are affected and has to cut off some of these FREE loan facilities. Credit card debt NOT reduced, good people's personal finance affected.

Some pay off their credit cards in full every month. They use card so that they don't have to bring lumps of cash around. They were NOT part of the debt problem but now they need to take more risk bringing more cash with them. Credit card debt NOT reduced, good people's personal finance affected.

Then there are those who owe money - who have long winding credit card debt. They just can't pay off the debt. They are the target group to be help with this policy. How can adding MYR 50 on top of their debt help them ? They can't just simply stop the card, they will have to pay their debt. As long as they haven't finished paying their debt, the account is running and MYR 50 will be added every year ... as an encouragement fee to 'help' them reduce debt !? Credit card debt INCREASED, bad people's personal finance PENALIZED.

Lastly there are these group of people who haven't had credit cards yet. So when they apply for one, they will think twice. But these people are NOT part of the debt problem to be solved to start with ! Credit card debt NOT reduced, good people's personal finance instilled.

Call me dump and crazy, how can this MYR 50 fee help reduce credit card debt again !? There may be some good points identified but NONE will reduce Today's credit card debts !!

After all, do you think a credit card debt person wouldn't pay a small fee of MYR 50 to get a new card from this lady ? After all, he can pay off this MYR 50 in his next 30 years which is only less than $1 a month.

Case Study : How to use Money ?

Starting at age 24, Daniel can save $1,000 a month. Plan to buy a $30,000 car at age 30, get married at 29 and buy a house at age 30.

He is also repaying $150 monthly to a $48,000 study loan. Only 10 more months left to pay for a $300 motorcycle loan. The $1,000 is net saving after deducting all these debt repayment.

"How to use money after I save them ?" Daniel asked.

Daniel has some goals to start with, so its best to draw a life line first.

Then Daniel should learn Future-Present Value finance formula. (He may also check out Rule of 72) With that he can come up with these figures. With $1,000 a month at age 24;

1. He can save in 2% fix deposit, he will have about $24,500 at age 26

2. In order to get $30,000 at age 26, his target investment return has to be 22%

3. If he didn't use the saving at age 26, it will accumulate to $76,400 at age 30 using 2% FD return

4. If he buy a car with $24,500, he will have $50,000 at age 30 using 2% FD return

So overall there is not much Daniel needs to worry about because

1. An used car of $25,000 or $30,000 are within similar range

2. Marriage may cost a few thousands typically

3. $30 to $50 thousand is enough for down payment for a typical home

Within the next 2 years, Daniel should mainly focus on cash flow control,

1. $300 motorcycle loan will end in 10 months time, by then he "should" save more every month i.e $1,300

2. He may spent only $350 for food as a student, but a working employee generally may spend more. He needs to watch that in order to achieve the $1,000 saving a month as the target he sets for himself.

3. Phone bill may increase too.

4. New spending category may also be added like entertainment, broadband, bad habits like smoking and drinking etc. Watch the friends you make, the girls you like, the bosses you kiss ass to ... make a good judgement if it is worth doing so.

After that if Daniel really buy a car, that will significantly change his personal finance;

1. Road Tax

2. Car Insurance

3. Petrol increase, usually by 4x from his previous motorcycle usage

4. Maintenance fee - a bad purchased used car may need frequent foreman visit

With only a target salary of $3,000 to $5,000 .... the car he will own may be his First biggest challenge.

Overall, this is the recommendation for Daniel,

1. Understand the TRUE concept of Personal Finance

2. He has 2 years before buying the used car, learn more about car mechanic, how to buy an used car, make more friends in car businesses etc. so that he can target buying an used car worth $X but he only pays $X - $Y for it. High Value for Money. Also read about other ways to get cars.

3. Learn Wealth Pyramid as tools to achieve MeM (Money earns Money) concepts. Goes up level by level from FD to Bond Fund to Mutual Funds to direct stock market investment.

4. While increasing investment return, understand that risk is something you don't know or you thought you know but didn't. So ability to learn, learn accurate and learn fast is your biggest asset now.

5. Marriage is not necessary a liability, it can be a happy event that earns positive cash flow sometimes. Daniel has 5 years from now to start explore what marriage ideas that can achieve such goals.

6. Daniel has 6 years to learn about property investment before buying his first home.

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I have earned 67% in a day !! can it be TRUE ?

Have you ever heard people said he made a profit of 67% in a day ? And then continue to show a few more 'proof' that he often earned incredible profits all the times. Then in order to be more realistic, he shows you a few small lost he made. Do you think he tells truth ?

Well, yesterday was a good day. I earned 67% in a day! Not just paper gain, I actually initiate and end the transactions on the same day to realize the 67% profit. No kidding ! But can it be TRUE ?

While the 67% could be true. Most people would be able to catch the first pitfall.

1. One day earning doesn't really mean much. As shown in this article, another day of 67% lost would not only not break even but actually making you some loses. The average return for the whole year is more important so that it is comparable with other rates like BLR and fix deposit interest rate etc. Persistency over the years would also become more important as time goes. Be reminded that Warren Buffet average annual return is 15.6% ( details in Greatest Investors of all time ).
2. It is also not too hard to catch the 2nd pitfall. Actual amount matters. Earning 67% from $1,000 is very different than earning 67% from an investment of $100,000. I can easily turn $1 to $2 earning 100% return but I would be happy if I can get 10% return from my $1 million investment. This is the part that says size does matter and a big percentage number is only exciting when it works together with another big number.
3. Another pitfall is one that some may overlook. Investment return should be calculated based on total capital, not the transaction amount itself. For example, I have allocated $1 million for a particular investment. In one particular transaction, I invested $100,000 and earned 67% return while the rest of the $900,000 sits somewhere doing nothing. My overall return is actually 6.7% only. Meaning I have earned $67,000 with $1 million. This is particularly important when judging fund managers performance.

So while it may be TRUE I earn 67%, but it may NOT be THE ENTIRE TRUTH on the perception of making such statements.

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Case Study : Property Investment Opportunities are Rare ?

Tammy achieves his financial freedom through property investment. Recently he bought over a property that looks too good to be true.

Purchase Price : $4 millions

Bank Loan : 100%

Loan Rate : 6%

Monthly Rental : $30,000

The property is sold at $ 3.8 millions but he lumps all the other fees in to make it $4 millions as his total cost. His net asset is way more than $4 millions so there is no problem to obtain that amount of bank loan. Loan interest is actually 5.XX but we round it up to 6% for this article. There are only 3 tenants, all are national and listed companies.

His monthly repayment is $23,982, fully paid by collected $30,000 rental, with a net cash flow of $6,018 every month. He didn't fork a single cent out because his bank is fully behind him in his deal.

Lucky him, just another rich guy gets richer, it has nothing to do with me, you may think ?

Well, every story is a lesson to someone. Its just a matter of what you get out of it. This opportunity did not just knock on his door and call it a deal with no reason.

It started around mid last year when the seller approached Tammy. Tammy made an offer but seller thought he had a better buyer and didn't take it. Then by last year end, seller took Tammy's offer but Tammy's offer has already expired. And Tammy met other better sellers. After beating around bushes and some silences, finally the deal is made this mid year. The whole process took around a year.

Can you imagine an opportunity of $6,000 net cash flow floating around in the market for one whole year and no one grab it like a crazy dog ? Well, that is the fact of life.

• Many people want to buy it but not all of them have 4 millions
• Many people do not qualify for a 4 millions loan
• Some people CAN buy this but this may NOT be their only choice
• Some people WANT to take this kind of opportunity but NEVER found this particular one!
• Both seller and buyer may have personal preferences ... etc.

Yes the 1st two points may rule out almost 90% of the people, the Rich does get Richer easier. But that is because they have built their fortune faster and ahead of others. Not because it was taken for granted.

Don't forget this mentioned opportunity has been floating around publicly for one whole year, you and I didn't really know it until the deal was done. So it wasn't a matter of how rich other people are, its a matter of what you have done so that you can get what you really want.

Yes, again this is in Australia.

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The Biggest Chunk of Insurance Cost

Every time you buy an insurance, some ones get their commissions and that is usually considered the largest part taken away from your money. In life insurance, this fee may start at 20-50% and slowly drop to 0% in 6 to 10 years time.

This fee structure turns out to be the most crucial part why Insurance becomes the most dedicated finance tool for personals. The whole agency and distribution forces have made insurance well accepted by general public because they are paid well. In addition, it becomes one of their most solid passive income streams.

It is really hard to sum this up in a word of good or bad. No one will like to be taken away $400 from their $1,000 savings or investment what ever you call it. But then again, if such commissions scheme did not exist, many people may still be under-insured and even more people did not save anything at all.

Although it starts at a HUGE chunk, it does reduce over time. Generally the total payout is within the range of 160% to 200% over a 10 years period. So the longer you keep your insurance policy, the less effect it has on you ;

10 years old policy has an effective commission cost of 20% = 2 / 10

20 years : 10% = 2/20

40 years : 5%

It is really hard to sum this up in a word of good or bad FOR YOU.

If you bought other products that have similar features but paid lower commission, then you are alright.

If you ended up NOT saving any money anywhere else, its bad for you.

If you have to pay high medical fee later, then it could have been better if ...

If your loved ones have cash flow problem after you die, perhaps the 40% 30 years ago doesn't seem like that much after all.

It is good we keep on searching for better solution all our lives. But before we find better ones, its crucial we engage with whatever available at the time.

Commission fee structure is the biggest chunk in insurance cost. There is probably NOT much we can do to change that in near future. What we have full control in, is to assess the value we receive in return. As long as we receive services and advices that is worth more than we pay, its a lesson well learn.

After reading this, will you

(1) be more eager to buy insurance,

(2) hate insurance more now or

(3) doesn't change much of your opinion on insurance ?

What happen after Automatic Saving ?

Once you have Automated Saving System or ASS setup and running for a while. ( I bet not many of you yet ) You may wonder, "What a crap! I am not financially free yet!"

Thanks to a case study reminding me to move on after ASS is setup. Also inspired by a silent guru - Meshio - somehow some reason I started scratching on a piece of paper when I review that case study. So in short, this may represent what happens after ASS ...

1. Choose an account that gives highest interest you can find for your ASS account
2. Decide how much emergency fund you need in your ASS ( usually in number of months or years of your monthly expenses )
3. Once achieve the emergency fund amount, the overflow should goes into investment
4. Your investment potential return should be significantly higher than your ASS return
5. move the emergency fund to FD, Bond Fund or Money Market Fund if interest is higher than your ASS account.
6. Continue looking, learning, categorizing and revising until your investment return is Passive and higher than your active income.

Finally the most important one #7, comes buy me a bottle of wine and tell me how MalPF can be improved based on your experience.

God did rest on Sunday didn't he ?

30% LOST is MORE than 30% profit ?

Have it ever occurred to you that 30% profit is NOT magnitude-wise the same as 30% lost ?

When your $100 investment earns a 30% profit, it goes up to $130 = 100 x 1.3. Pretty straight forward, no problem there. Then it makes a 30% lost. Instead of going back to $100, it actually drops to $91.

130 x ( 1 - 0.3 ) = 91

The calculation above is not deceiving. A 30% discount on any market item is actually calculated the same way.

So you have just made a lost of $9 !

Sounds tricky ? Lets see what if it moves the other way round.

This time you lost 30% from your $100 investment, it become $70 = 100 x ( 1 - 0.3 ). No problem here. Then it earns back 30%. This time you got 70 x 1.3 = $91. Again you lost $9 !!

There you go, sometimes 30% earning is NOT necessary the same as 30% loses. Get your numbers right in both your business and investment, 9% strategical lost due to a not-so-well-setup strategy could be killing.

Married : Combine or Seperate Account ?

One of the common questions asked by recently married couple is "should we combine our bank accounts or keep them separate ?"

The quick answer is to have combined accounts when you are newlywed. Later down the marriage path, you may want to keep them separates. As jokingly as it may sound, you may eventually find it very truthful too.

The longer or more philosophical answer is to keep some accounts private and some other accounts joint.

Your account is Yours,

My account is Mine,

Our account is Ours.

All 3 are DIFFERENT ENTITIES, they are NOT suppose to get mix up. Suppose each person already has her own account before marriage. So yours is yours and mine is mine, there shouldn't be any confusion there to start with. After marriage, each individual just add a new Automated Saving Stream into the newly created joint account. Thats about it.

Web statistic - a different era for MalPF

MalPF goes global, 1st step ... http://malpf.savingadvice.com/

MalPF is ranked the no. 27 million-th most visited site. Or in layman term, one of those sites that no one knows and will never find out about.

Malaysia Personal Finance blogspot is slightly better rank at 2.6 million-th and 47,902th in Malaysia.

There are a lot of NEW and great Malaysian personal finance blogs setup recently but kclau and meshio still top the list as covering all rounder topics

kclau - 378,988th most visited in the world or 5,290th in Malaysia.

meshio - 664,893th

( in ranking, the lower the number the better it is )

A few other bloggers who may not cover traditional full range personal finance topics but has been providing great tips and latest news, hence rank quite well within Malaysia visitors. One of them is AlanTan, rank 5,133th and DavidLee, 2,414th in Malaysia.

In contrast to Personal Finance Malaysia, MalPF is lacking at 10% or in other words, needs to play a catch up game of 10X.

Out of finance topics, KennySia is rank 408th in Malaysia and 51,274th in the world. Liewcf is still the father of all bloggers, rank and stay high at 27,101th in the world.

On this comparison, MalPF needs to spend 100 times the effort to catch up from existing 1% of Malaysia's Internet pie.

Most of the world best personal finance sites are also ranking at liewef's level :

GRS - Get Rich Slowly @ 22,132th

SA - Saving Advice @ 33,576th

Sorry this post may be a bit geeky, random and irrelevant. But I guess this means its time for MalPF to do spell check, write in full sentences and start some internet marketing ...

or will that corrupt its originality ? What do you think ?