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Showing posts sorted by relevance for query car loan. Sort by date Show all posts

Monday, March 5, 2012

Use Home Loan to Buy Car ?

Matthew is refinancing his property @ 4.2%.  He will have an extra $100k.  So he is planning to buy a $100k car too.  The car loan is offering him 2.88%.

Should Matthew use his home loan to buy this car or should Matthew take the car loan ?

The answer, contradict to common comments, is actually home loan but . . .

Saturday, October 4, 2008

Car Loan vs House Loan interest rate

This may be a little bit too technical for some but definitely useful for those who really care about their money and has something to do with or going to have car loan.

In Malaysia, vehicle loan rate is calculated flat, forward sum to the future.  For example,
You borrow RM 100,000 vehicle loan for 7 years at 3%.  Your total repayment for the whole period is 100,000 x ( 1 +  7 x 0.03 ) = RM 121,000.  There are 84 months in 7 years, so every month you have to pay 121,000 / 8 = RM 1,440
Don't get confuse with this 3% car loan rate with the Fix Deposit rate, or BLR or House Loan interest rate.  Because the calculation method is different, they are not comparable to each other.

In short, in order to compare your car loan interest rate to your house loan rate, you need to convert the car loan rate into a compound rate.

Table below is a reference for such conversion.

For example, the highlighted in yelow says that.  If your Car Loan interest rate is 3% and you are taking a 3 years loan, then it is equivalent to 5.68% house loan interest rate.

My rule of thumb on this topic is :  Simply multiply car loan rate by 1.9 to convert them into a house loan interest rate.

Have fun continue to be puzzled and confused by above table ..  have a great weekend !!

The above table and figures are one of the TOP SECRET in personal finance that even most 
Bankers don't have, not to mention your financial planner, insurance or mutual fund agent.  But if they do, please let me know ...

Friday, May 22, 2009

You want to buy a car, NOW ?


Thanks to the new PM effect and various new policies in place including the RM 5,000 rebate, almost ALL of my Average income friends are Really interested to buy new cars.  Although soon they find out a lot of inconviniences because there are too many rules about the RM 5,000 rebate which make stuff not that practical but now friends still want to buy new cars no matter if he can gets the rebate.

If you also have a property 
that you can refinance, 
you should seriously think about
 refinancing your property 
to buy that car
 instead of getting a car loan.

Car Loan rate is 3.5% now.  Following the rule of thumb that car loan rate is 1.9x house loan rate, the 3.5% car loan is almost more than a 6% house loan.  With today's BLR-2.X offer, your house loan is most probably serving at 3.X% only.

6.X %  to 3.X % is a HUGE difference for crying out loud !

There are even some level term loan offered by insurance companies at 4.75% now, which is still so much BETTER than the 3.5% car loan ( which is 6% ) no matter which angle you look at it.

Despite the fact that car is the biggest personal finance killer in Malaysia, and if anyone buy a car NOW by taking a CAR LOAN while having the choice of refinancing his property .... Please ... at least share with me here why you do it, why do you want to spoil your own personal finance plan while I am already feeding you nice food near your mouth ?  Why do you still split it out ?

I will start with the most common excuse, "I scare income tax will find me if I pay my car in full as if buying it with cash!"

True concern but only valid for those illegal drug dealers etc.  If you Really have a property that can get Approval from banks to refinance, there is Absolutely no concern at all on tax filling.  Upon enquiry by tax department, simply submit your house loan documents and declare no other income whatsoever un-declared in the past.

Assuming all people start to do exactly what I share here, there is only one person they will go after - me!  They will blame me for causing them and the banks to lose so much more income.  Bank may start reducing the amount they lend to a property, they will ask if you are using the extra money to buy a car and then they may deny your loan application in future!

But I doubt that will happen at all, truth for the past thousands of years show that human just like to stay in their own shell even if it has been hurting them for so long, they get used to it and they will just refuse to walk out even one step to the more comfy zone.

What ?  You want to buy a car nOW !?

Monday, June 1, 2009

FREE info on BEST Rates in Malaysia

Its been a while since I start sharing the latest BEST rates in Malaysia including Saving Accounts, Fix Deposit, Car and House Loan, BLR etc. The orange color bar start with wordings "Best Rates..." at the top right angle on this page is an example. Or you can see one below here too ...


Since then it has been made into a widget and anyone can include this info at their own blog / web site by following some simple instruction here.

It is NOT easy to simply pick a number out of the long list of available choices and call it Best rate. Furthermore, there are so many considerations and factors that it is almost imposible for other people to 'decide' which rate is the BEST rate for you. Hence, lets review why and how malpf makes its list.

Fix Deposit is a finance tool you use when you have a sum of money that you will NOT be using for a while and you can gain Higher saving interest than normal saving account. So the higher the rate the better it is. Hence the interest rate is mark in blue color.

One of the greatest pit fall in FD is that if you withdraw before its maturity date, you may lose your interest or even have to pay penalty to it - liquidity problem. On another aspect, its best to increase the frequency of 'taking' the interest and put in back into the FD itself to enjoy the power of compounding interest. Hence keeping these 2 in mind (liquidity and compound interest), 1 month FD is the better choice compare to other longer term FD even if longer term FD may give higher return. Choosing compound more frequent with lower rate is better than locking the fund with a rate that seems high today.

Hence when comparing FD rate, 1 month FD is used and the higher the rate is the better.

BLR or Base Lending Rate is another important number where most of the variable loan will use as the reference loan rate. The lower this number is, the better it is. Hence the rate is marked with RED color. Just to add a note that business loan can benefit more from lower BLR than housing loan.

Saving account is one of the hardest ones to compare due to its large variation in future. There are junior and senior accounts, ordinary and islamic accounts etc. However, if we focus on the fundamental of saving account, it is a finance tool to 'temporary' keep our money to maintain our cash flow, ie. day to day liquidity. So the ease of interest calculation is important and we shall focus mainly on working adults ( Not Junior Nor Senior accounts ). For ease of calculation, multi-tier rates are less welcome. Certain accounts who impose minimum amount before paying interest is also less welcome. After considering these factors, we can pick the highest interest rate as the Best Rate (in blue).

Car Loan is usually fix loan rate. Car loan for used car and new car is very different. However, use car's selling price is very largely different as well. So when used car loan rate is too high, simply shop around more looking for a cheaper car will do. Hence back to the Best rates consideration, it is more reliable to consider NEW car loan rate where the car price is pretty much standard. In this case, the lower the number the better it is. ( red )

Lastly is House Loan, which is also a very tough call for Best Rate. However, borrowing principals from saving accounts, multi-tier rates are less favorable here. Getting 1-2 years of Zero interest by committing to potentially high rate in future is NOT exactly a great way to go. Therefore malpf only concentrates on the simplest BLR-X% where the Higher the X is the Better it is, ( blue )

Among all other best rates, house loan best rate may be the least influencing one because all other considerations like Zero Moving Cost and the most recent flexi all in one account, overdraft without the overdraft rate feature makes it really tough to generalize their good and bad.

Alright, thats the start of why and how these rates are choosen.

Check out below on some of the new Best Rates too, some of them may be useful to some people too ... ie.



FD12mth : 12 months Fix Deposit for those who are really sure will not touch those money for a year
Save1mil : Saving account that has MORE than 1 million in it
Save15k : Saving account thas has MORE than RM 15,000 in it
iSave : Islamic Saving account
UsedCarL : Car Loan rate for used cars

Thursday, March 11, 2010

Malaysia Best Rates 2010 March 11 update



1 month Fix Deposit

Most banks offer 2.25% now except a few ones. Most of the ones who are still stuck at 2.0% are international banks like Bank of China, JP Morgan, Bank of Nova Scotia and Alliance banks.

1 year Fix Deposit

Highest offered rates is 2.75% by Affin Bank, AmBank, Bangkok Bank, Bank of Tokyo-Mitsubishi UFJ, Deutsche Bank, Hong Leong Bank, Malayan Bank.

Base Lending Rate

Most local banks stand at 5.8% now with Affin offers the lowest at 5.75%. International banks offer lower rate starting from 5.50% by Royal Bank of Scotland.

Saving Accounts
Kuwait Finance House continues to offer highest saving interest rate in its KFH Savings Account-i at 1.5%. This account is also very simple and straight forward.

Other than that, Standard Chartered's Al-Wadiah Savings Account-i offer 1.0% for up to RM 10,000 savings.

CIMB's Air Asia Savers Account and Mudharabah Saving Account-i also offers 1.0%.

Other accounts who seems like offering high interest rate but require high amount of saving are excluded. Some special accounts like OCBC's iQ Saving is also excluded because their offer rate may seems high at 3.28% but their effective rate is hard to simplify for general public. In short, for those accounts, if you use up the benefits they offer then it would be a great deal but if you do not use any of those stuff then its better you stick to a lower but 'real' rate, simpler and more straight forward saving account.


Don't forget you can get a simple widget
like above to show on your blog / web site.
Just visit here to see how.

Car Loan : NEW Car

Maybank continues to offer the lowest car loan rate starting from 2.7%. However, this is NOT a standard rate apply to all applicants. The actual rate can range up to 4.3%.

Bank Muamalat offers 2.85% for both New and Used cars but it requires an admin charges of RM600.

Most other banks rates offer are 3.25% for New cars.

Car Loan : Used Car

CIMB offers the lowest 3.25% used car loan rate.

Most of other best used car loan rates offer are 3.75% by Affin, Hong Leong Bank, Alliance, EON and RHB.

Don't forget Car Loan rate is Fix Term Rate
which is effectively a MUCH HIGHER
than variable term rate
like House Loan and Fix Deposit.

House Loan

Affin remains as the best house loan offer at BLR - 2.3%.
Standard Chartered offers BLR - 2.25%

Most banks offers are BLR - 1.8%.

Multi-tiers house loan offers are excluded because it would be impossible to simplify their pro and cons without knowing the actual details of your particular loan details. Hence, only simple and straight forward house loan offers are compared.

Wednesday, May 26, 2010

Malaysia Best Rates 2010 May 26 update



1 month Fix Deposit

Generally now banks are offering 2.50%. Affin bank offers highest rate at 2.55%. However, there are still a few banks offer lower rate than 2.5%. JP Morgan is still offering the lowest at 2.0%

1 year Fix Deposit

Highest offered rates is 3.05% by Affin Bank; followed by 3.0% from AmBank, Bank of Tokyo-Mitsubishi UFJ and RHB Bank.

Base Lending Rate

Most local banks stand at 6.05% now with JP Morgan offers the lowest at 5.65%.

Saving Accounts

Bank Islam offers 1.35% through its Mudharabah and Pewani ( for women above 18 years old ). Women can enjoy up to 1.58% in Pewani saving account if saving is more than RM 5,000.

CIMB's Air Asia Savers Account offers 1.2%.



Don't forget you can get a simple widget
like above to show on your blog / web site.
Just visit here to see how.

Car Loan : NEW Car

Maybank continues to offer the lowest car loan rate starting from 2.7%. However, this is NOT a standard rate apply to all applicants. The actual rate can range up to 4.3%.

Bank Muamalat offers 2.85% for both New and Used cars but it requires an admin charges of RM600.

Most other banks rates offer are 3.25% for New cars.

Car Loan : Used Car

Bank Muamalat offers 2.85% but requires admin charges of RM600.

CIMB offers 3.25% used car loan rate.


Don't forget Car Loan rate is Fix Term Rate
which is effectively a MUCH HIGHER
than variable term rate
like House Loan and Fix Deposit.

House Loan

Affin remains as the best house loan offer at BLR - 2.3%.
Standard Chartered offers BLR - 2.25%

Multi-tiers house loan offers are excluded because it would be impossible to simplify their pro and cons without knowing the actual details of your particular loan details. Hence, only simple and straight forward house loan offers are compared.

Sunday, December 13, 2009

Is Loan really Better than CASH ?


You may have heard people are claiming its better to get a car loan than buying it with cash even if you could, especially from those car salesmen. Likewise, property investment gurus say that its better to get a home loan. These are some of the key reasons why they say loan is better than cash;
  • Liquidity - keep your money with you, you may need it in future.
  • Income tax department may come 'disturb' you seeing that you have loads of cash.
  • buying stuff with loan usually gets more gifts.
It shouldn't be too hard to realize the main reasons why people pursue you to get a loan is because they may get a share of the interest you are paying. For example, car salesmen earn double the commission when they sell you a car with loan. Property agents want you to buy more property with the limited money you have hence they can earn multiple commission instead of just once. Other than that, most others who pursue the same are most properly are just due to ignorance.
This situation is exceptionally terrible when you are buying a new car. The car salesmen will literally give you a bad service if you mention you will buy the car with cash. They will try their worst effort pursuing you to get the loan no matter what. Else they would rather NOT sell you the car at all.
Getting a loan simply mean Pay Less NOW AND Pay More at the end. To be precise, you will have to pay interest to the loan you are getting.

Loan = Cash + interest

So you will definitely be paying more when you buy something with a loan. If you do not need the facility of 'Pay Less Now', you are basically paying the interest for nothing but ignorance.

Lets clear away the simpler excuses first;
  • Income tax only penalize those who earn income illegally so unless you DO have something to hide else there is really no reason to worry about any audit.
  • All 'gifts' come from your own money, the more gifts you receive in a deal, the more suspicious you should worry about the real value you are receiving.


Now the toughest part is the liquidity. It will be very hard to say keeping some money with you is NOT a liquidity option. But it is not necessary always the best liquidate option.

First of all, when you buy something with cash, its just between you and the seller. However, when you get a loan to buy the same thing, there is at least an additional party involved ie. the person who gives you the loan. Its has not just become a 3 parties complexity, its actually a totally 2 different transactions and a 4 different roles play.

( with Cash )
Buyer and Seller

vs

( with Loan )
Buyer and Seller
Borrower and Lender

So in addition to the interest, you will also pay more fees when you get a loan. When you want to sell your item, you will need to pay this fees again and perhaps also getting approval from this lender. Relatively a cash purchased item can be sold off immediately. From this perspective, doesn't cash purchase sound like a more liquidated option ?

Lets say you could buy something with cash at $100,000. You may also get a 5% loan and pay $1,060 monthly for the next 10 years.

Lets say half way down the road on the 5th year, the item has depreciated to $50,000 (13% depreciation rate). If you bought it with cash, you would end with a net cash $50,000 after selling it. If you got a loan, you would have paid $63,639 in the past 5 years, meaning you still have $36,361 cash at hand. Together with the $50,000 you may think you have more than $80,000 but you still have to repay the capital left in the loan, so at the end you end with a net cash of less than $40,000 which is less than the cash purchase option.

On the other hand, lets say your item appreciate 10% a year. On the 5th year, you could sell it for $161,051. But if you got a loan in the first place, you may get back about $140,000 net, which is still significantly less.


So no matter if your item appreciate or depreciate, if you sell off your item earlier or later, buying something with loan will only end you with ;
  1. slower to sell off your item because it involves 2 transactions and it cost more fees too
  2. getting less cash back at the end
The last I check, disposing something off slower and getting back Less cash is NOT exactly a liquidating option at all.

Sunday, February 13, 2011

Malaysia Best Rates 2011 Feb 13 update


Fix Deposit

Honestly, after tracking the rates for years. Affin bank is the bank to go with if you want the highest FD rate. Be it 1 month or 12 months, just go with Affin bank.

Check this site often, I shall let you know when this trend changes.

Base Lending Rate

ALL local banks stand at 6.3% now with Bank of Tokyo and Royal Bank of Scotland offers the lowest at 6.0%.

Saving Accounts

Bangkok Bank offers 1.85%

Bank of Tokyo, Bank of Nova Scotia offers 1.75%



Don't forget you can get a simple widget
like above to show on your blog / web site.
Just visit here to see how.

Car Loan : NEW Car

Maybank continues to offer the lowest car loan rate starting from 2.7%. However, this is NOT a standard rate apply to all applicants. The actual rate can range up to 4.3%.

Bank Muamalat offers 2.85% for both New and Used cars but it requires an admin charges of RM600.

Car Loan : Used Car

Bank Muamalat offers 2.85% but requires admin charges of RM600.

CIMB offers 3.25% used car loan rate.


Don't forget Car Loan rate is Fix Term Rate
which is effectively a MUCH HIGHER
than variable term rate
like House Loan and Fix Deposit.

House Loan

There are too many factors in considering a good house loan, so we don't think its fair to simply summarize them here.

Our advice is to source for at least 3 offers, preferably a mix of local and foreign banks.

Monday, September 28, 2009

PKFZ vs Buy A Car in Malaysia


One of the messages this site insists on spreading is that "Buying NEW car is the BIGGEST killer to a Malaysian Personal Finance". Today lets look at this at national level.

One of the hottest money topics in Malaysia now is PKFZ where RM 12 billions people's money has gone 'somewhere' that you and I have no business in. And we are going to compare that with the cars you and I bought some years ago, recently and even soon again.

641 out of 1,000 Malaysian own a car. Rank #3 in the world ( USA is #1 ofcourse ). Can you imagine a developing country aka NOT a Developed nation, rank #3 as the top car owners in the whole wide world !? If car ownership by land size is a benchmark, Malaysia would have already been a Super Nation !!

In Malaysia, when you pay RM 100,000 for a new car, RM 55,000 goes to the car. The rest of the 45% goes to 'somewhere' you and I have no business in. Below show some examples of different car prices in USA and Malaysia;

Hyundai Elantra costs about USD 12,000 in Lexington and MYR 96,000 in Kuala Lumpur
Honda Civic costs about USD 15,000 in Pittsburgh and MYR 113,000 in Malaysia
Toyota Camry costs about USD 20,000 in New York and MYR 150,000 in Malaysia

Use exchange rate USD 1 = MYR 3.5, you may get these numbers in comparison;

Car 1 : MYR 42,000 in USA vs MYR 96,000 in Malaysia ( overpay 56% )
Car 2 : MYR 52,000 in USA vs MYR 113,000 in Malaysia ( overpay 54% )
Car 3 : MYR 70,000 in USA vs MYR 150,000 in Malaysia ( overpay 53% )

Although most of the times you may find Malaysia car price is more than 2X the foreign car price, but some costs and fees are legitimate so trust me for now that only 45% has gone 'missing', not the 50+%.

Malaysia has a population of 25 millions people, that means there are 16 millions cars have been purchased. ( 25 millions/ 1,000 x 641 = 16 millions ).

Takes average car price at RM 50,000 ( actual figure is RM 68,XXX), then there are a total of RM 800,000 millions car sold. ( 50,000 x 16 million = 800,000 millions )

45% goes to 'somewhere' you and I have no business in, that is a total of RM 360,000 millions or RM 360 billions.

How much have we lost in PKFZ again ? RM 12 billions !

Game Over ! The result is :
RM 12 billions vs RM 360 billions

Yet everyone buy cars, made someone else rich and NO major news reporting this fundamental flaw. Ever heard of Slow Boil Frog's story ? Its happening right now right here everyday to everyone .... our daily lives ....



Lets make some sense out of this RM 360,000 millions.

16 millions of us own cars, so our car prices were to be normal all this while, Each and Everyone of us would actually get back MYR 22,500 ( 360,000 millions / 16 millions = 22,500 )

Most should know that Malaysia as a country earns money from Petroleum. In 2007, our export minus import net profit is MYR 129,000 millions. Still 50% less than all the money we 'contribute' by buying cars.



My friends always ask me why I wasn't shock when I heard the 12 billion PKFZ case. Well, I buy cars in Malaysia and that gives away 30X more than the PKFZ case ...




Other related topics

Wednesday, November 11, 2009

How much should we buy that car ?


Most personal car purchases are sentimental and relate to quality of life ... however if purchasing a car is mainly a transport and finance matters then it could be iron out this way ...

First lets start with some facts of transport life around me;
  • Taxi is as good as my own car if not better ( its my own car + a driver ) but its costly
  • Bus stations are near by and can go almost anywhere but it takes too much of my precious time
  • Intra city trains are fast and efficient but only after you are IN the city
  • Car rental gives the highest flexibility but it could be expensive if park aside too long
So I will need a hybrid solution if I don't have my own car. For me, I will use Taxi - Train - Light Rail during normal days and Bus and Car Rental during weekend and holidays.

First I take a taxi to the near by train station (KTM), once in town I use light rails ( PUTRA, STAR, MONORAIL etc.) to travel almost anywhere within the city. Typically I would need to exchange once within the light rail systems to reach my destination. Return trip same path.
$8 : Taxi to station
$1.40 : Train to Town
$1.80 x 2 : Light rails within city

One way = $13
Return or one day = $26
5 days week = $130
50 weeks a year = $6,500
By weekend, I would rent a car and run away for 2 days ...
$180 / day x 2 days = $360
4 weeks or 1 month = $1,440
12 months or 1 year = $17,280
Adding both up is $23,780 a year.

If $2,000 a month of transportation fee seems ridiculously high, you probably do not need to rent a car every weekend, perhaps every bi-weekly or even every month if at all needed. Run your own numbers for your own scenarios. This example is trying to mimic the same lifestyle with a car.

Now if I do all that with my own car, I would need to pay for
  • petrol : $400 a month
  • parking : $10 / day x 5 days x 4 weeks = $200 a month
  • maintainence : $100 a month
That is a total of $700 a month burn. That leaves $1,300 a month for the car itself. So if I can find a car that I have to pay monthly less than $1,300, it may just be a good deal.

So if I take 3 years car loan at 3% interest I probably should buy a car less than $43,000
if I take 5 years car loan instead, I could spend up to $67,826 for a car.

Consider the resell value as a bonus or final fund consolidation just in case maintainence shoots up or you ended up not using that car that much after all.


Monday, July 25, 2011

Wednesday, November 12, 2008

Property as an investment

Just a reminder that Car Loan interest rate is about 1.9X more than the House Loan.  Meaning a 3% car loan is almost as high as a 6% house loan.  Think again if you think car loan has a lower interest rate.  (click here to read more).

The fundamental of investing in property is not much different than buying a business to earn you passive income.  However, the nature of brick and mortal business is an Active Income generator, not a passive one.



VS






So you would need to be extra careful when using property as your finance tool to gain "Passive Income".

In simplest term, you HAVE TO make sure
  1. you can rent your property out to fully pay for the monthly loan repayment
  2. you budget in the fee you pay for professional to maintain your property including
Lawyer
Real Estate agents
Renovation
Interior Design if needed etc.
Without these 2, you cann't start property investment at all.  With this, there is no guarantee you can win big yet but at least you would at least pay less to learn the lessons.


Friday, October 3, 2008

The Biggest Killer in Malaysia Personal Finance Planning

I did start this blog with Malaysia in mind.  All previous postings are general in concepts and may apply everywhere.  Now let's look at specific challenge in Malaysia.


So let's talk about CAR ... one of my daily routine item ...

I bought a 2nd hand car in 1995 for $10,000 and eventually scrap it in 2005.  
So $10,000 divided by 10 years of usage is about $1000 a year.  
Divide it further by 365 days is roughly $3 a day.

That means I had been paying $3 a day for that car.

Then I bought a Wira in 1998 for $55,000 and today its worths about $15,000.
Following similar calculation, I have been paying $11 every day for this car.

So I used to pay $3 for my vehicle back in 1995,
Now I have to pay $11 for the same in 2008.

This alone is more than 10% compounded infation !!

I haven't mentioned I bought a Hyundai for $90,000 in 2003 and now its worth about $20,000.  That is more than $38 / day !!

Ok ... some of you could be smart enough to see the flaw in above calculation.  I am still using my Wira and Hyundai.  So as time goes, the average cost of ownership should go lower.  It is TRUE BUT don't forget the car resale value also becomes lower as time goes.  So give and take, its still not much difference.

I haven't included car loan in above calculation.  The actual total price I paid is more than $68,000 and $110,000 for Wira and Hyundai respectively.

For every car you buy in Malaysia, you pay more than Double the car's value. That means at the moment you buy an imported new car, you lost half of your money instantly !

This is due to various ways how goverment increases the car price in the name of protecting national own pride, make of our own cars.  I was in Total Support IN THE BEGINNING !  And that was more than 20 years ago ...

Right or Wrong put aside.  Buying car in Malaysia is the #1 killer in Personal Finance Planning.  No matter how little your income is, if you do NOT own a car, you probably can still have a great solid finance ground.  And no matter how rich you are, the cars you own are burning big holes in your pocket, an easily 10%-30% depreciation rate.

Lastly, if owning car is a MUST like me, think of it as paying for the experience.  So the next time you get in your own car, be happy ... because you are getting more out of what you already paid.  Else you lost both your money and the enjoyment.  Drive Safely ... and Happily !!

How to Buy Car in Malaysia ( personal finance point of view )
1.  Try your best to buy car with CASH only
2.  Get the loan with the Smallest Amount and Shortest Time possible
3.  If possible, go for limited edition super famous car.  That way, it may become a capital that may appreciate.


Tuesday, October 6, 2009

BEST rates in Malaysia - update 2009 10 06

This is a comment update to FREE Info on Best Rates in Malaysia :

Car Loan
Maybank still tops the list after many months offering starting from 2.7%. The trick is that not everybody can get that rate and further more its mostly for national cars only. So the way they published their car loan rate has successfully made them the best choice over the past few months.

2nd runner up is Bank Muamalat whose car loan rate is only 2.85% but charges a RM 600 admin fee.

House Loan
Affin bank still top the list with BLR - 2.3%, the trick is that they don't approve many loans. They have this self image that they are the 'high quality' house loan processors ...

2nd runner up is Standard Chargered BLR - 2.25%, who is relatively more flexible and more marketing oriented. That means they may listen to what you need, try their best to request benefits on your behalf, with the hope of getting your business.

Fix Deposite
FD rates haven't changed since the recession staying at 2% which really puzzle me. If the recession is really over, why isn't the saving rate goes back up yet ?

BLR is generally staying at 5.55% with a few exception where foreign banks are offering slightly lower rate.



Friday, October 23, 2009

Case Study : How to use Money ?


Starting at age 24, Daniel can save $1,000 a month. Plan to buy a $30,000 car at age 30, get married at 29 and buy a house at age 30.

He is also repaying $150 monthly to a $48,000 study loan. Only 10 more months left to pay for a $300 motorcycle loan. The $1,000 is net saving after deducting all these debt repayment.

"How to use money after I save them ?" Daniel asked.

Daniel has some goals to start with, so its best to draw a life line first.



Then Daniel should learn Future-Present Value finance formula. (He may also check out Rule of 72) With that he can come up with these figures. With $1,000 a month at age 24;

1. He can save in 2% fix deposit, he will have about $24,500 at age 26
2. In order to get $30,000 at age 26, his target investment return has to be 22%
3. If he didn't use the saving at age 26, it will accumulate to $76,400 at age 30 using 2% FD return
4. If he buy a car with $24,500, he will have $50,000 at age 30 using 2% FD return

So overall there is not much Daniel needs to worry about because

1. An used car of $25,000 or $30,000 are within similar range
2. Marriage may cost a few thousands typically
3. $30 to $50 thousand is enough for down payment for a typical home

Within the next 2 years, Daniel should mainly focus on cash flow control,

1. $300 motorcycle loan will end in 10 months time, by then he "should" save more every month i.e $1,300
2. He may spent only $350 for food as a student, but a working employee generally may spend more. He needs to watch that in order to achieve the $1,000 saving a month as the target he sets for himself.
3. Phone bill may increase too.
4. New spending category may also be added like entertainment, broadband, bad habits like smoking and drinking etc. Watch the friends you make, the girls you like, the bosses you kiss ass to ... make a good judgement if it is worth doing so.

After that if Daniel really buy a car, that will significantly change his personal finance;

1. Road Tax
2. Car Insurance
3. Petrol increase, usually by 4x from his previous motorcycle usage
4. Maintenance fee - a bad purchased used car may need frequent foreman visit

With only a target salary of $3,000 to $5,000 .... the car he will own may be his First biggest challenge.

Overall, this is the recommendation for Daniel,


2. He has 2 years before buying the used car, learn more about car mechanic, how to buy an used car, make more friends in car businesses etc. so that he can target buying an used car worth $X but he only pays $X - $Y for it. High Value for Money. Also read about other ways to get cars.

3. Learn Wealth Pyramid as tools to achieve MeM (Money earns Money) concepts. Goes up level by level from FD to Bond Fund to Mutual Funds to direct stock market investment.

4. While increasing investment return, understand that risk is something you don't know or you thought you know but didn't. So ability to learn, learn accurate and learn fast is your biggest asset now.

5. Marriage is not necessary a liability, it can be a happy event that earns positive cash flow sometimes. Daniel has 5 years from now to start explore what marriage ideas that can achieve such goals.

6. Daniel has 6 years to learn about property investment before buying his first home.

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Monday, November 16, 2009

Is Buying New Car the Only Way ?


One of the previous articles showed a method to calculate how much one should pay for a car. In that example, the number is $1,300. That article then relates the $1,300 to a purchase of NEW car selling at $43,000 or below.

However buying new car shouldn't be your only way to have your very own transport.

Used Car
You may only get a SMALL NEW car with $40,000+ but you can get a pretty NICE USED car for only $20,000. That is an instant 50% saving !

Borrow
Do you have friends or relatives who have extra cars parking at their homes only being used once in a while ? There was once I drove my uncle's Mercedes for a month and I only paid $800 for it. Last weekend I visited 10 eligible neighbors telling them my car has broke down and I need to borrow their cars for a month. 3 of them are willing to do so for $500.

Car Pooling
Usually people don't car pool and there are many excuses for that. But at the moment I showed some cash, 15% of the drivers suddenly become more friendly. This is especially good for regular trips. As for the weekend get away, I looked for shopping and travel buddies who drive.




What other creative ways you can think of to use your transport money ?

Thursday, January 1, 2009

How to "REALLY" get a car FREE ?

I always share that below picture can help me answer ALL kinds of financial planning questions.  Let's try it now ...

First of all let me emphasize that I may not have free lunch here.  So if you are expecting magic here please wait a bit longer until I graduate from my magic classes :)

Legally there are 2 ways you can get a car for FREE 
1) by adopting the green shaded area called "Earn $2 with $1" and
2) by applying some 'tricks' in the "Income" area
The easiest way to get your first car FREE is ... by NOT buying it "now".  You may say this is a no brainer or even a bit pissed with this suggestion but its the reality in Personal Finance Planning ;
DO NOT buy the things you cann't afford
Time with compounding interest is your friend
For example, an averagely usable used car would cost one to five thousands dollars, so lets say you are budgeting $3,200 for this purpose and all you have is $100 to start with.  According to Rule of 72, if you save $100 with 12% interest, you will reach your target 30 years later.  So if you save your $100 at age 10, you can buy your first car for "free" when you are 40 years old.

Some of you may get even more pissed by now, "What kind of lifestyle is that ?"  

Well, above is assuming you do "nothing" or purely a "passive" growth.  If your expectation is you don't want to pay with Money but DO NOT MIND spending some effort, then keeps reading on ....

Playing with the same number game, these are the interests you will need and number of years to achieve your target.

18% : 20 years
24% : 15 years
36% : 10 years
72% : 5 years

Now this is the turning point ... 90% of the respond up to now is, " There are NO WAYS we can get 72% return !! "  

Fewer would complain slightly differently, " The only way to get that return is by doing business myself ".

I know asking you to start a business to earn enough money to buy your first car would even be more lame for this topic.  But this still brings out another reality in Financial Planning ;
When you cann't address your finance needs "passively"
you will need to solve it "actively" 
"passive" means Earn $2 with $1 and Buy $100 with $1
"active" means doing something with your income

You may get away with NOT paying with money, but you would most probably still need to PAY with some effort or at least PAY with a Darn Good Idea !

Here comes a few ...

Ask For Minimum Wages
The next time you are offered a job, do not ask for salary raise.  Indeed ask for minimum wage and a FREE car.  In some case, the company car you received is still taxable but usually the total taxable is still lower than if you have a high salary.  There are a few ways how the company can do this although not common.  The general principal is that your lower salary helps you pay less tax and company purchase vehicles reduce business taxes.  At the end, you may receive more than your raised salary while your company is paying less.

Your effort :  You will need to calculate all the figures correctly and build a strong case to propose to your employer why it is beneficial for them to do it.  This requires you to really understand your local tax policy, your targeted purchased car resale value and depreciation rate, industry total compensation plan.  Lastly you probably need to have good presentation and convincing skill.

This is already a standard procedures for top positions in big companies with very expensive cars.  Smaller companies do not see the point of doing this with everyone because the saving is not that big.  However, if you do all the calculation for them, there is no reason why they don't want to save an extra penny.

Don't Buy One, Buy More !
Find an investor, buy 10 cars and rent them out.  You link all these people up but let your friends manage the business.  You keep a very small share or no share at all with the agreement that you can use one of the cars 5 out of 7 days or when the car is not in rent.  5 years later, you may keep the car for good.

Your effort : You will need real business skill to come up with the business plan and proper contract to get this going.

This used to be a very successful model in Langkawi and Labuan when they have a lot of tourists back in those days.

Be A Market Expert

Pick a used car model you are interested in.  Start compiling your own market price statistic by calling each seller.  Record the lowest selling price you get from each seller.  Eventually you should have the actual selling price of this car model in your local area.  Keep looking until you find one that is 20-30% cheaper than your compiled price.  Buy that car with 90-100% loan.  While driving the car, put up an adv with 5% more than the selling price but stated "negotiable".

Your effort : You will need to be a marketing guru to understand how above has used the technique of "leverage".  If done correctly, the cycle keeps going and you will have a free car.  But if done incorrectly, you may end up in debt trouble.  You will also really need to know the car and its price very well.

There are 2 ways in leveraging.  You may buy the car 20-30% cheaper than 'normal' or you can sell the car 20-40% higher than 'normal' by value adding.  This depends on how well you know cars, its supply and demand.  This technique is still actively practised everyday but not with the purpose of driving a FREE car.  The car sales men are adopting these strategies to earn big money.


Hmmm ...

I just realize this post has gone too long, I can go on and on ... so if you are still not happy with above suggestions, do leave comments why so and I would try to come back to this topic in future ...

Saturday, December 26, 2009

BEST rates in Malaysia - update 2009 12 26


Although Fix Deposit rate stays at 2% for 1 month and 2.5% for 12 months but generally FD interests are 'starting' to rise. This is inline with the speculation that interest rates will be raised by Bank Negara ... and its just a matter of time. This trend will affect both FD rate and BLR.

Three Banks have the lowest BLR since mid 2009 : 5.25%
The Royal Bank of Scotland Berhad
Bank of Tokyo-Mitsubishi UFJ (Malaysia) Berhad
J.P.Morgan Chase Bank Berhad

But most loans come in terms like BLR + or - another numbers. Remember to compare your own true and effective loan rate including fee++ before deciding on a loan package. Usually these lowest BLR banks also offer less attractive effective final rates ie. BLR - a lower number. Some other deals that follow strictly on BLR on the other hand, would be great to deal with these banks.

The highest saving account interest is 1.88%
Mudharabah Basic Savings Account-i by CIMB Bank Berhad
minimum deposit RM 20
interest calculated daily, compounded monthly

The actual rate may only be 1% now. I suspect that they haven't update their marketing system yet. The actual rate payment is on a profit share bases, so the rate is not really as 'guaranteed' as other saving accounts. But historically, statistically and even politically you will most probably be getting back slightly higher interest than promised. For how long no one knows ...

However, this is still the best choice for a saving account. Other banks' Al-wadiah or Mudharabah accounts are ok too.

Some offers 1.5%
J.P.Morgan Chase Bank Berhad - Saving Account, calculated daily,compound every 6 months
Bank of America - BBS Saving Account, calculated daily,compound every 6 months
Bangkok Bank - Basic Savings Account, calculated daily,compound every 6 months

The other high interest accounts 1% are
The Bank of Nova Scotia Berhad - Basic Savings Account, calculated daily,compound every 6 months
Bank of Tokyo-Mitsubishi UFJ - Savings Account, min RM200, calculated daily,compound every 6 months

Best Car Loan rate for New Car is 2.7% by Maybank
Bank Muamalat offers 2.85% but its effective rate could be lower than Maybank. But it has a RM600 admin charge. Both banks can have up to 90% margin and 9 years tenure.

Bank Muamalat offers the same rate for Used Cars. That makes it the BEST rate for used car loan. Late payment charge in Bank Muamalat is only 1%, compares to the normal practice 8% in all other banks.


Thursday, July 16, 2009

Travelling : 2nd biggest personal finance killer ?


The 2nd personal finance killer, however, is NOT as hard cast in stone as the 1st. Travelling basically involves paying a sum of money before and during the trip. Then it usually ends with no financial return and a tired body.

The biggest return of Travelling is qualitative like gaining experience, widen the horizon, refresh the mind etc. None is easily quantifiable into financial return. So valuing a trip is slightly different than just analysing numbers.

If you have something in mind BEFORE travelling and FOCUS on what you REALLY need during the trip, then it should be relatively safe to say you have GAINed what you pay for. Such a travelling desires are usually very personal. For example, "I want to rest", "get out of current environment", "see Dubai with my own eyes", "take some pictures", "see someone", "look for something" etc.

If you have such clear consense, then you should focus on that during the trip. For example, if all you want is to get away. Then all the hinderance of flight delay, annoying tour guide shouldn't matter. On the other hand, if your purpose is to see something, then you may want to study a bit more on the weather, culture, latest political situation or any other factors that can increase the chances of you seeing what you want to see.

Unfortunately, quite a lot of people travel for the sake of travelling. The number 1 thing that comes to their minds when planning a trip is 3 days 2 nights or 4 days 3 nights etc. Without even considering if those travel time would allow them to enjoy the way they expected.

Some others may carry unrealistic expectation, want to be treated like a King, want to do 'Everything', want to know ALL about a place during a trip etc. In some cases, watching Discovery and National Geography channels are much better suited instead of travelling in person.

On another angle, if you know what you want in a trip and you planned ahead including saving for it. Then its a worth while travel. On the other hand, if the trip is un-organized and ad-hoc, you would most probably ends with a bad investment, both financially and your time.

Travelling is an expense that is paid once and usually quite a sum; And you will NOT get anything back in return (financially and meterial wise). If you still don't handle your own expectation or any qualitative return in values ... basically you are just wasting all your hard earn money.